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P1 Morgen – "Praktikanter i Arkitektbranchen"


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RĂ„ber man hĂžjt nok sĂ„ bliver man til sidst hĂžrt…Eller det var ihvertfald det jeg tĂŠnkte da en ung journalist fra DR, Katrine Overgaard, ringede til mig i sidste uge. Hun var nemlig igang med at lave research til et indslag pĂ„ P1 omkring brugen af udenlandske studerende pĂ„ de danske tegnestuer. Det viste sig dog, at hun rent faktisk ikke havde lĂŠst min artikel i Arkitekten – Stud.Billig.Arch. – eller den efterfĂžlgende debat her pĂ„ bloggen. Hendes baggrund var i stedet en privatfest pĂ„ Vesterbro, hvor der hen af natten dukkede 20-30 unge mennesker op. Senere fik hun at vide, at de alle var udenlandske studerende der arbejdede pĂ„ BIG for bare 5.000 kr om mĂ„neden. Og da tĂŠnkte hun, at her var en historie der var vĂŠrd at fortĂŠlle til folket.

Hendes fÊrdige indslag, her til morgen, er derfor ogsÄ kun et forenklet tilskud til diskussionen om de danske og udenlandske arkitektstuderendes studiearbejde eller praktik pÄ tegnestuerne, og i hvilket omfang og antal de er fordelt pÄ disse.

I interviewet deltager, ud over undertegnede, arkitekt Rasmus GraakjĂŠr, reprĂŠsentantskabsmedl. i Arkitektforbundet Mikkel Lindskov Petersen, og vicedirektĂžr og advokat Tina Munck fra Danske Ark.

– Indslaget blev ogsĂ„ nĂŠvnt i en mindre artikel pĂ„ DR Nyheder/ Penge (alternativt link)

Arkitekt-i-praktik

ARKITEKT: "Hvordan foregik din erhvervserfaring under studiet?"


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Show me the money!
NĂ„r det kommer til Ăžkonomi, sĂ„ er der ikke lavet nogen undersĂžgelser om hvordan de studerende egentligt bliver betalt ude i det kĂŠre erhvervsliv. Lever de kun af den medfĂžlgende S.U. under praktiken? FĂ„r de lidt oveni fra tegnestuen i ‘kompensation’? Og hvis de vĂŠlger at tage ansĂŠttelse pĂ„ tegnestuen f.eks. i forlĂŠngelse af praktiken, fĂ„r de sĂ„ mindstelĂžn efter overenskomst? Eller fĂ„r de ogsĂ„ her en mindre “kompensation” i betaling (eksempelvis svarende til S.U.)? MĂ„ske de helt vĂŠlger at arbejde gratis for at fĂ„ foden indenfor?

Smid lidt i puljen
Det er lette spÞrgsmÄl, som dig der har vÊret igennem mÞllen let kan vÊre med til at danne et billede af, her nedenfor. Da det er super anonymt, sÄ skriv endelig en evt. kommentar, forklaring eller et eksempel nedenfor!

– Der mĂ„ gerne sĂŠttes flere krydser

stud.arch.slav

stud.slav.arch. !?


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Arkitekternes praktikordning

For 10 Ă„r siden fungerede det sĂ„ledes at arbejdsgiveren fik et lĂžntilskud fra arkitektskolen, der talte godt og vel halvdelen af den lĂžn man fik – ja, man fik rigtig lĂžn dengang, som svarede til det at have et fuldtids studiejob…hvilket det jo ogsĂ„ egentlig er. Allerede dengang fik det mange til at smutte en tur til udlandet istedet, da man her kunne fĂ„ sit lĂžntilskud, tĂŠt pĂ„ 20.000 kr, direkte i hĂ„nden til f.eks. at betale for flybillet og et sted at bo!

Tiderne er skiftet og det er praktikordning ogsĂ„. Som det flot hedder pĂ„ Karch sĂ„ er det nu “gratis for praktikstedet”. Men i de sidste 10 Ă„r er leveomkostningerne ogsĂ„ skudt i vejret. Ikke specielt mange der kan leve af kun deres SU. Og et arbejde ved siden af sin praktik er ikke helt let…specielt hvis det er konkurrencer der er pĂ„ den daglige menu. SĂ„ vi sidder med et resultat hvor studerende arbejder fuld tid, pĂ„ en stĂŠrkt nedsat Ăžkonomi, uden at det koster tegnestuen en krone.

For fĂ„ Ă„r siden gik snakken om dĂ©t konkurrenceforvridende i at forbruge store mĂŠngder af den gratis stud arbejdskraft – dengang var der muligvis noget om snakken i enkelte tilfĂŠlde. Men nu om dage er det efterhĂ„nden mere reglen end undtagelsen – specielt med det stĂžrre antal af mindre tegnestuer med fĂŠrre midler. Og sandheden er vel egentlig at en tegnestue, her i 2009, ikke har rĂ„d til at tabe en konkurrence med mindre der var en praktikant med pĂ„ opgaven!? (handler nu mere om afleveringskrav mm, end om praktikordningen i sig selv). BIG har mĂ„tte tage mange prygl siden de startede. Men hvis man skal klappe nogen pĂ„ skulderen over en ĂŠrlig (bĂŠredygtig!) hĂ„ndtering af praktikordningen, ja, sĂ„ er det selvsamme BIG….som de eneste, betaler de rent faktisk deres praktikanter.Go figure!

– Har du nogle holdninger eller erfaringer, sĂ„ sĂŠt op til 2 krydser nedenfor:

Jeg har selv pustet til ilden hos stĂžrre tegnestuer der havde problemer med at tiltrĂŠkke praktikanter. Det er ikke alle der er opmĂŠrksom pĂ„ at den interne diskussion hurtigt bliver prĂŠget af tillidsmandens (medarbejdernes) interesser. Og det er vel ĂŠrligt nok: jo flere (billige) praktikanter man har, jo mindre arbejde er der til resten. Derfor var der enighed om en lĂžsning hvor man meldte ud, at reelt arbejde skulle prĂŠmieres. Praktikanter skulle tildeles samme lĂžn som en studiemedhjĂŠlper – billigt for tegnestuen, mindre trussel for medarbejderne og totalt i orden for praktikanten! Blev dog aldrig sat i vĂŠrk…og de mangler stadig praktikanter, haha!

En helt anden ting er at det ville give god mening i de tilfĂŠlde hvor tegnestuen rent faktisk fakturerer timer ud af huset for arbejde som en praktikant har stĂ„et for….eller i de (mange) tilfĂŠlde hvor praktikanten pludselig stĂ„r og bygger model sammen med studerende der rent faktisk fĂ„r betaling for det!!

– Smid en (evt. anonym) kommentar nedenfor hvis du er (u)enig eller har et andet perspektiv pĂ„ diskussionen. Hvis der ikke er nogen kommentarer sĂ„ mĂ„ det vĂŠre fordi at alt er i fineste orden!?